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Nativevaman We are actually saying the same thing!

kinda funny Actually

the original thred was with nothing in the tank not live rock just sand and added crushed coral.

The live rock will produce a ton of waste if it is not cured properly. I have 2-100 gal reef tanks and 3-nanno's. I for one would never put live rock in any of the until i have cured it my self. I have an established junker tank that I use to cure rock in after I recieve it. Regardless of where it came from. (usually direct trans shipmets).

Bottom line is that if you do not have any thing producing nitrogenous wast in the aquarium you can not have a sustaned cycle. Bacteria will crunch out the waste and die out with in 4 hours give or take. So if there is nothing dumping the nitrogenous waste into the tank that's that. No cycles.