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Old 09-08-2008, 10:43 PM
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Hi there. I know this is a silly question to be asking but how do you actually start a hyposalinity treatment?
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:35 PM
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Start at what ever SG you are currently at and drop it 2 points per day until at 1.009. Do not go lower and use a refractometer to measure SG as hyrometers are not accurate enough to maintain these fine guidelines. Raise the SG the same way. Slowly raise a couple points a day till the desired SG is reached. Remember some fish undergo the treatment with great results and some cannot take the treatment so what kind do you want to run thru Hypo?
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:43 AM
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For what types of illnesses is hypo treatment recomended?
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:15 AM
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For what types of illnesses is hypo treatment recomended?
It has been proven that fish run properly thru hyposalinity are permanently rid of the ich parasite unless introduced to the parasite again.
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:45 AM
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Start at what ever SG you are currently at and drop it 2 points per day until at 1.009. Do not go lower and use a refractometer to measure SG as hyrometers are not accurate enough to maintain these fine guidelines. Raise the SG the same way. Slowly raise a couple points a day till the desired SG is reached. Remember some fish undergo the treatment with great results and some cannot take the treatment so what kind do you want to run thru Hypo?
Jim the bolded statement is not true. a Refractometer is more accurate then one of those crappy plasic hydrometers. However, a good glass floating hydrometer beats a refractometer in accuracy. Its just that the glass hydrometers are a pain to use.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:05 PM
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Jim the bolded statement is not true. a Refractometer is more accurate then one of those crappy plasic hydrometers. However, a good glass floating hydrometer beats a refractometer in accuracy. Its just that the glass hydrometers are a pain to use.
LOL....Hey Cyber...go back and read the bolded statement agian...AND I AGREE with you 100%!
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:07 PM
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LOL....Hey Cyber...go back and read the bolded statement agian...AND I AGREE with you 100%!
I did go back and read the bolded statement again. here it is below. Good to know that my wife is wrong and I am occasionally correct! . Guess it just goes to show even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and again.

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Start at what ever SG you are currently at and drop it 2 points per day until at 1.009. Do not go lower and use a refractometer to measure SG as hyrometers are not accurate enough to maintain these fine guidelines. Raise the SG the same way. Slowly raise a couple points a day till the desired SG is reached. Remember some fish undergo the treatment with great results and some cannot take the treatment so what kind do you want to run thru Hypo?
The above statement does not specify the type of hydrometer. It just states that Hydrometers are not accurate enough to maintain these fine guidelines. So I always like to point out that certain Hydrometers are more accurate then refractometers. As stated a good glass floating hydrometer is a pain. However, I always want to make sure everyone knows that this is in fact the most accurate.

Damn crappy plastic hydros, giving the real thing a bad name!
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The above statement does not specify the type of hydrometer. It just states that Hydrometers are not accurate enough to maintain these fine guidelines. So I always like to point out that certain Hydrometers are more accurate then refractometers. As stated a good glass floating hydrometer is a pain. However, I always want to make sure everyone knows that this is in fact the most accurate.

Damn crappy plastic hydros, giving the real thing a bad name!
Yes, the common plastic hydrometers are a pain. Regarding the accuracy of glass hydrometers, they can be very accurate, as long as they were manufactured correctly and are made to operate at the same temperature as the water being tested. Most refractometers these days automatically compensate for the temperature so they are always accurate if calibrated properly.

As for using hyposalinity treatment, I'm a huge advocate of it. It can be very useful if done properly. One of the main things that I always try to point out is that once the treatment is done, raise the salinity of the tank back up VERY slowly. I like to take 5 days with 2 very small salinity increases per day.
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:18 PM
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...Regarding the accuracy of glass hydrometers, they can be very accurate, as long as they were manufactured correctly and are made to operate at the same temperature as the water being tested.....
All the glass Hydros I have seen have a temperture compensation guide associated with them in the documentation provided.

Don't mean to be the opposing voice here, however, I am a brewer, distiller, and reefer. So I have quite a bit of experience in this matter.
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Start at what ever SG you are currently at and drop it 2 points per day until at 1.009. Do not go lower and use a refractometer to measure SG as hyrometers are not accurate enough to maintain these fine guidelines. Raise the SG the same way. Slowly raise a couple points a day till the desired SG is reached. Remember some fish undergo the treatment with great results and some cannot take the treatment so what kind do you want to run thru Hypo?
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Yes, the common plastic hydrometers are a pain. Regarding the accuracy of glass hydrometers, they can be very accurate, as long as they were manufactured correctly and are made to operate at the same temperature as the water being tested. Most refractometers these days automatically compensate for the temperature so they are always accurate if calibrated properly.

As for using hyposalinity treatment, I'm a huge advocate of it. It can be very useful if done properly. One of the main things that I always try to point out is that once the treatment is done, raise the salinity of the tank back up VERY slowly. I like to take 5 days with 2 very small salinity increases per day.
We already covered that . I listend well. LOL
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:26 PM
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All the glass Hydros I have seen have a temperture compensation guide associated with them in the documentation provided.

Don't mean to be the opposing voice here, however, I am a brewer, distiller, and reefer. So I have quite a bit of experience in this matter.
Yes, the good ones do have a compensation guide, but you need to actually pull it out and use it.
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I have to say that the plastic ones are crap.I had one made by coralife that worked well.(I checked it against a buds refractometer)I lost it.I bought a new one just like it.What a piece of junk.Its never read the same thing twice.Its like throwing witches down a well.
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