[pete york]

YouTube - ich?

does he have ich and what can i do to help him

[NATIVEVAMAN]

Pete I dont see it,maybe you should let dr.becky look at that.It might help tp have a still pic with better resolution.

[pete york]

yea ill take a picture right now im just really worried cause theres white dots on his tail if u look pretty hard at the video u can see the white spots on his tail

[NATIVEVAMAN]

I see them now.you should get him in a qt right away.

[pete york]

hes very hard to catch im still trying and my maroon clown has a little white spot over his eye should i try to get him in here too?

[plecosword]

What is the Temperature of your tank? I can see all the ick on his tail.
I read something about raising the temperature shortens the life of ick.

[pete york]

my temp is currently 82 do u think i should get it up higher what temp?

[plecosword]

I really Don't know but you dont what to boil your fish. lol,
In freshwater when fish get ick, you are supose to raise the temperature up to 84 and do a 25% water change daily but this isnt freshwater and i dont think it is the same type of ick.
Ohh and by the way, Dont let it spread any more than it has already. If a single fish gets too many IT will die!! Ask nativeman, hes like a grampa, there is nothing he cant answer.

[pete york]

just to update everyone the fish is in a QT tank and ill be medicating him in the following weeks thanks for ur guys quick reaction thankyou!

[Waterlogged]

What about the rest of your fish?

[pete york]

none of them show any real signs of ich it was just that one fish if i see more signs i will get the rest out

[plecosword]

some fish are atracted to ick more than others. Like i know tangs are really vulnerable to ick. I think Ick feeds on their blood, am I right?

[jimw369]

Originally Posted by pete york

none of them show any real signs of ich it was just that one fish if i see more signs i will get the rest out

Only 2 ways to get rid of ich: Copper and Hyposalinity treatments

Here are some links:

ATJ's Marine Aquarium Site - Reference - Marine "Ich"

ATJ's Marine Aquarium Site - Reference - Hyposalinity Treatment

Good luck.

[jimw369]

Originally Posted by jimw369

Only 2 ways to get rid of ich: Copper and Hyposalinity treatments

Here are some links:

ATJ's Marine Aquarium Site - Reference - Marine "Ich"

ATJ's Marine Aquarium Site - Reference - Hyposalinity Treatment

Good luck.

Im sorry I just assumed it was ich the way everyone was talking. After looking at the video I think its dinoflagellate. This can spread and get out of control so QT as soon as possible. Might want to pm Becky for some meds. My biggest concern would be what effect this is going to have on the rest of the tank. You dont want it to spread.

Be nice to have a better pic

[NATIVEVAMAN]

After looking at that video again last night the spots are to large and not very well defined like ich is.Like Mario said I am old with tired eyes that only focus well on the ladies lol.

[rlcline76]

Hmmm, I did see the dots, that did look like ich. I had to play and pause and play and pause. I saw heavy respiration, but that could be because of the rate at which it was swimming. I think we could use a much better picture either way to be sure.
I'm glad if you have it in QT. Watch your other fish in the tank. I would not raise the temp. I think the place to do that safely is in QT. Some fish will not handle a raise in temp. Inverts will probably find it displeasing as well.

I want you to browse this, see if it holds true for your fish. They are not so forthcoming on treatment, but I think many of us would start by using copper.

AmylloodiniumArt

I had it. I had to use formalin3. It was at that same time I bought the UV sterilizer and had to leave the tank fallow for 6 weeks. Not someplace you want to be, can be more harmful than good...which is why everyone needs a good QT period prior to being added to the tank. It is so much easier to treat and possibly lose, one fish than a whole tank.

See if you can get us a better pic so that we can help you narrow it down.

I'm moving this to disease treatment forum, so that you be seen at my usual "office". lol

[NATIVEVAMAN]

ha ha ha The doctor is in.Pete wait till you get the bill for this one lol.

[pete york]

oh boy...hope my insurance covers this! haha

[pete york]

from what i can see the dots are really big and only on the tail and theres only 2 spots on its body would this still be ich i hear theres a few more parasites that look just like ich and theres tell tale ways to sort this out

[rlcline76]

Ich can be on the body, it is not restricted to fins.

More for you:
IchArtMar

How is the fish behaving? Fast respiration, even when resting? Swimming? Eating? Lethargic?

Have you started any treatment yet?

I would suggest adding a vitamin supplement and garlic to the diet.

A lot of the time, you'll find that no matter what, treatment is pretty much the same. With any fish, you will want to check the treatment with the fish. Google is good for that...and then read some of the forums at Wet Web Media.

No one wants to misdiagnose, which is why you are not getting a straight answer. Does your fish look like he has a dust coat on him, especially along his back? Diseases like velvet and brooklynella are fast and furious killers without treatment and a good eye. If you can rule those out, we can probably keep things basic. If the fish is breathing ok and eating well, I would want to keep treatment basic. Do the cysts look like the ich pictures provided in the links given or are they fluffy tufts, like little cotton balls?

This is what I would do, assuming we are not looking at fungus. In QT, if you haven't dosed with copper recently, the fish is swimming, eating and not respirating like crazy, you can try half dosing with copper and enhance the diet with vitamins and garlic. Petsmart or Petco, probably has a garlic supplement like Garlicguard and maybe Kent's Zoe...or you could start calling the LFS if they are open. You could always get creative and start crushing cloves yourself to soak your food in. You could start a hyposalinity treatment.

And try not to panic. Do not add more than one med in the QT tank. Understand that your fish can look the way he is looking for a good week before you start seeing an improvement in appearance.

[CoralGeeks]

Its not Ich. Jim was right, its parasitic dinoflagelettes aka marine velvet.

[pete york]

better...worse?

[rlcline76]

Your treatment will remain the same. Are you treating yet?

[pete york]

yes hes in a QT tank and im treating him as we speak he should be alright in a few weeks from what im told by my brother thanks for your fast help you guys