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Old 02-13-2009, 04:05 PM
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Yes, the picture comparison of the two you supplied definitely has shown the quality and reasons to buy the highly sought after LED lighting systems. For me, I am currently bouncing back and forth between T5's or Metal Halide+T5's for my 50 gal. This thread you started has certainly pressed me forward toward the future of aquarium lighting, and that is investing in LED technology. I know finding 6,700K Whites and 20,000K Blues on the internet can be very tricky, as most are 5,600K whites and 14,000K Blues. Please do try and ask the manufacturer what the specifications on the bulbs and ballast are, I am very interested. As for the English descriptions, your doing just fine. As a matter of fact, your doing exceptionally well on that topic, I will let you know of any errors that may need correction. Myself and many others are monitoring this thread constantly, you started this thread three days ago now, and you have already had 151+ views, thats great! Talk to you soon David.

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Yes, the picture comparison of the two you supplied definitely has shown the quality and reasons to buy the highly sought after LED lighting systems. For me, I am currently bouncing back and forth between T5's or Metal Halide+T5's for my 50 gal. This thread you started has certainly pressed me forward toward the future of aquarium lighting, and that is investing in LED technology. I know finding 6,700K Whites and 20,000K Blues on the internet can be very tricky, as most are 5,600K whites and 14,000K Blues. Please do try and ask the manufacturer what the specifications on the bulbs and ballast are, I am very interested. As for the English descriptions, your doing just fine. As a matter of fact, your doing exceptionally well on that topic, I will let you know of any errors that may need correction. Myself and many others are monitoring this thread constantly, you started this thread three days ago now, and you have already had 151+ views, thats great! Talk to you soon David.

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Here shows the specifications of both white and blue LEDs, where the white LED is the "Daylight" type in the list and the blue LED is the "Blue" type in the list:





Wavelength spectrum




This list was just recieved yesterday, and I read it the first time as I recieved it! From the content, I found that I seem making a mistake on giving you the wavelength of the white LED (6,700K in the former post, and 6,300K in this list!). In fact, I am not that good in such a topic. Maybe this specification list can give further information that you need!

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By the way, a new species of zoas just collected in my tank, which is named "007 Golden Eye", was newly purchased in the local aquarium shop.
This new member was not yet been photographed. Below is a nice website with information and pics of numerous species of zoas:
CoralPedia.com! :: The definitive repository for named Corals!

the "007 Golden Eye"
CoralPedia.com! :: The definitive repository for named Corals!

so.....what will it look like in my tank?
please look forward to the coming event ~~

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Perfect Cozer! Perfect! Those charts were exactly what I was looking for! I needed to know what wavelength each LED has to be at. Those 4 charts will help me through my LED journey greatly David thank you. As for the newest Zoa.. the picture on CoralPedia looked awesome, but I am betting that under your LEDs it will look ten times better. I have to see these day.night color transitions. Were all waiting in anticipation for this newest update of pictures Cozer! The long waited 007 Golden Eye Zoa is on its way, which by the way is a perfect name for them lol. Later man.
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Here shows the "007 Golden Eye" just purchased!


Another new species of zoas purchased the same day:


An animation showing the zoa under different illumination conditions:


Another animation for the simple zoa puzzle:


Two pics of the former collection:




Some of the coral pics taken today:










These updated pics indicate the accommondation of the corals with the new LED lighting fixture. As for the "growth" of these corals, I think a weekly diary of these photographs might help!
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See, I knew the Golden Eyes would throw off more color rendition under your LED setup. The other picture on CoralPedia wasn't as bright and vibrant as it is under your lights, by far. Those Day/Night transitions are very cool, you did a great job with getting the same angle for both pictures to make a perfect light switch without barley noticing. And yes, let these pictures become proof that a 007 Golden Eye Zoa is thriving greatly under the correct wavelength LEDs. What is that new species second down from the top?? Remind me of a watermelon lol
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See, I knew the Golden Eyes would throw off more color rendition under your LED setup. The other picture on CoralPedia wasn't as bright and vibrant as it is under your lights, by far. Those Day/Night transitions are very cool, you did a great job with getting the same angle for both pictures to make a perfect light switch without barley noticing. And yes, let these pictures become proof that a 007 Golden Eye Zoa is thriving greatly under the correct wavelength LEDs. What is that new species second down from the top?? Remind me of a watermelon lol
For the zoas you are interested in, I tried to find out their names from "Coral Pedia" CoralPedia.com! :: The definitive repository for named Corals!


By detailed comparison with those pics in the website, the two zoas should be:
(1) PHE Red Ring (Purple Hearted Zoos)
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(2) Watermelon Delight
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With further observation, one can see that the "Watermelon" zoas in my tank show their pink hearts not like the red ones as the pics shown in the website. Either the light or the variability between species should be the reason for the difference!
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Cozer i have a question, looking over everything im actually thinking about changing my lighting on my 65 gal to all led set up also. Does the depth of the tank have anything to do with the coloration your getting . My tank is 30" tall would i have to set up a shorter tank or jsut get more led's to penetrate the water more?

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Cozer i have a question, looking over everything im actually thinking about changing my lighting on my 65 gal to all led set up also. Does the depth of the tank have anything to do with the coloration your getting . My tank is 30" tall would i have to set up a shorter tank or jsut get more led's to penetrate the water more?

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30" in depth is almost twice the depth of my tank (18").
In my opinion, higher powered LEDs (>3W) should be more suitable for you if you insist to keep your recent tank. If the intensity of the light (lumen) is not the main consideration for you but the penetration of light, I think these 1.25W LEDs that I am using now might still perform well under 30"! However, if lumen and penetration are both seriously concerned for your tank, the use of 3W LEDs or a shorter tank should therefore be necessary!

Here shows a demonstration of the LED fixture mounted on a tank with a depth of 50" provided by the manufacturer. One should notice that the LED fixture was mounted 10" above the water surface, which means that the real penetration depth is about 60".

With the blue LEDs (1.25W X 12) on:


With both white (1.25W X 24)and blue (1.25W X 12) LEDs on:


One can clear see that the whole tank was completely illuminated under the LEDs. Hoever, the lumen should be certainly decreased with the depth!
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Don't mean to interrupt.. But hey Cozer, I was researching a lot about DIY LED setups for hundreds less than the PFO setups. I found a website that has everything I need to build an LED fixture. I want to start looking into the possibility of building one and starting a new DIY LED Build Thread on here. I am reading over your charts and found the correct wavelength, lumen, and wattage for each color. My problem is this, the website I found everything on has a whole bunch of different types of LED bulbs. I'm not sure which is the correct one to buy, i'm sure its not the 3mm and 5mm LEDs. Maybe you can look over the specs and help me out with a part number of which one is the right bulb.

Here is the link to the websites LED selection:

Super Bright LEDs - LEDs

Let me know if you see the correct bulb specs on one of their Daylight White and Actinic Blue bulbs, then let me know the part number. If they have the correct bulb on there, then I am almost completely positive I can build a fixture for much less. Look forward to hearing your response. Sorry for butting in to migget's question. Thanks.
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The only reason im asking is i havce a 29gal tank tht im slowing setting up for the propigation on rics and zoo's and looking at your set up and the cost value of the led's compared to the cost value of the PC, and bulbs i would have to get and maintain would be alot less, plus with your setup i could also us 6700k bulbs for growth, with the pc i would be growing them up 420mm and 460mmm bulbs per a thread ive beeen reading over the last month.
Ok so i just measured both the tanks i was gunna use and was way off. The 29 gal tank is 18" tall and the 65gal tank is 24"tall. most of my zoo's now in my 65 are lower in the tnak due to me having a 250watt coralife fixture on it and the light being so bright. If i could get tht same intensity but less heat and less watts butg same lumens and penatration i would def. change the over. But would tht be to tall a tank for want im talking about, and still keep the same coloration of the zoo's and rics?

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The only reason im asking is i havce a 29gal tank tht im slowing setting up for the propigation on rics and zoo's and looking at your set up and the cost value of the led's compared to the cost value of the PC, and bulbs i would have to get and maintain would be alot less, plus with your setup i could also us 6700k bulbs for growth, with the pc i would be growing them up 420mm and 460mmm bulbs per a thread ive beeen reading over the last month.
Ok so i just measured both the tanks i was gunna use and was way off. The 29 gal tank is 18" tall and the 65gal tank is 24"tall. most of my zoo's now in my 65 are lower in the tnak due to me having a 250watt coralife fixture on it and the light being so bright. If i could get tht same intensity but less heat and less watts butg same lumens and penatration i would def. change the over. But would tht be to tall a tank for want im talking about, and still keep the same coloration of the zoo's and rics?

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In my case, the former lighting fixture I used before changing to LEDs was composed of 150W HQI X 2 and 39W Actinc T5 X 2. After I replaced the former one by the recent LEDs, the light intensity "seems" not decreasing apparently since I don't have a meter for the measurement. As for the light penetration, I think they performs as well as the former light source. Back to your case, you got deeper height of your tank in comparison with mine. Therefore, I firmly suggest you to consider 3W LEDs but not the 1.25W LEDs. I think you will be satisfied with those 3W LEDs both on light intensity and penetration aspects.
Talking about the keeping of coloration, I have to tell you that uunder the two-month illumination of LED light, zoo's collected in my tank still shows their same coloration as they were initially brought in. I can not guarantee you that the coloration will be maintained in the far future since this is definitely a time-resolving question. Anyway, hope that you can obtain any useful information from my reply~~

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I was not sure of LED but your tank made me change my mind. I will try and make an LED hood for all my tanks great job with the details
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So you use a D80 what kind of program do you use for processing?
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That a great setup.
Thank you for spending time on this thread! Any thing new in this tank will be updated here continuously!

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I was not sure of LED but your tank made me change my mind. I will try and make an LED hood for all my tanks great job with the details
I'm glad to hear you say that. In fact, still a long way to go for the popularizing of the LEDs in the field of aquarium. More information involved with the influence on the growing of the corals under the illumination of LED should be definitely necessary. Hope you can join the test!
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So you use a D80 what kind of program do you use for processing?
Yap~ A D80 with 18~135mm kit was used for photographying my tank! A image processing software called "ACDsee" is being used for the processing of the pics taken. It is simply to recover the photos to the nearest vision observed by the naked eyes, especially for those taken under pure blue LED light! I am confident that those pics you see in this thread are just close to what you can see in situ!
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Yap~ A D80 with 18~135mm kit was used for photographying my tank! A image processing software called "ACDsee" is being used for the processing of the pics taken. It is simply to recover the photos to the nearest vision observed by the naked eyes, especially for those taken under pure blue LED light! I am confident that those pics you see in this thread are just close to what you can see in situ!
They look good maaaayne(man), I use aperture from mac. I do like though Photography at its finest.
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A FTS pic taken two days ago is shown below:


It should be mentioned that this FTS was taken under the illumination of LED light.


Below is the FTS under former HQI + T5 light for comparison:


What do you think about the difference between the two pics?
looks awesome!
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looks awesome!
Thank you! So, which one of the two FTS pics do you prefer? Under LED? Or under HQI?
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Thank you! So, which one of the two FTS pics do you prefer? Under LED? Or under HQI?
I like the bottom picture.
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One zoa newly purchased two days ago!


Not that colorful but I like its pattern!
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A FTS pic taken two days ago is shown below:


It should be mentioned that this FTS was taken under the illumination of LED light.


Below is the FTS under former HQI + T5 light for comparison:


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they both look great!
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Yap~ the light source is purely LEDs!
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