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Old 05-17-2008, 04:44 PM
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Might as well take the opprotunity tp practice the QTing. I personally would do it. Cant wait to see what everyone else says. From what Ive read Ich can survive host or not for awhile. Not to mention anything else might affect things in the tank.
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Might as well take the opprotunity tp practice the QTing. I personally would do it. Cant wait to see what everyone else says. From what Ive read Ich can survive host or not for awhile. Not to mention anything else might affect things in the tank.
That was my thought, do the qt thing and see what happens. I do have a 2 year old granddaughter who's anxious to have 'movie fish' in the tank......
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:22 PM
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Yeah Id qt them and then Id like to know about your amonia level... I had mine checked and they said I was on the backside of the cycle and to go with it... my zoo'z opened fully this afternoon and the green star polyp is fully open too. Since we started same day basically Id be anxious to see the differance form size to size.
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My ammo's are zero right now. They did spike, really high (off the chart), but they're now zero. That was when I just had LR and sand in my tank tank. I'm going to test more often now that I have crab critters there.

I don't have any corals. I'm waiting on those. Do you have pics of your tank? I just have the cheapo lights. We just can't afford to do anymore right now. (remember, I have a 75 gallon tank) It appears my process is going to be slower than yours. I'm just doing a FOWLR for now.
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It's been a couple days, and my crabs seem to be happy. Although, it's hard to see the blue legs, as they are kind of small. But, the larger red legs seem to be happy, hunting down all the junk and just doing their crab thing. I think Monday or Tuesday, I'm going to get a couple blue or green chromis. (I don't want the more aggressive damsels) Do you think it's necessary to quarantine my first fish since it's the first fish in the tank? Or is is safe to place them in the tank after a couple hours of adjusting? Or is it wise to quarantine them like any other fish?
I've never quarantined any of my fish when i put them in. I just acclimate them. only quaratine if you suspect parasites or illness.
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The pics of the zoos are under "new zoo's" and the green star I cant seem to get the camera to focus on it very well. From what everyone tells me those zoos dont need much light either , Im going to get PC's next week or the week after but thats all Im putting in for now.
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:06 PM
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I've never quarantined any of my fish when i put them in. I just acclimate them. only quaratine if you suspect parasites or illness.
I've heard so much about QT'ing fish. My LFS is really good, apparently I'm really fortunate to have them, so, I'm not real worried about the QT for 5 dollar fish. I am worried about the 50-100 dollar fish. Right now, I'm wanting something in my tank, and a couple chromis without QT'ing them might be alright.
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:12 PM
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I've heard so much about QT'ing fish. My LFS is really good, apparently I'm really fortunate to have them, so, I'm not real worried about the QT for 5 dollar fish. I am worried about the 50-100 dollar fish. Right now, I'm wanting something in my tank, and a couple chromis without QT'ing them might be alright.
if you have a quarantine tank and you qt a fish before you put it in your tank, first off very stressfull on fish when switching surrounding, so you'll be doing that twice, then you'll have to acclimate twice also. too much stress in my opinion.
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IMO... 2xacclimate + 2xnewtank=4xstress
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:54 PM
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Thanks, for the first fish, I think I'll just acclimate them. Other than my crabs, there's nothing in the tank. It's great being able to talk to you all about my tank. I really appreciate the input. As we advance, and get more into the hobby, I'm sure our simple solutions won't be as valid. But, in the meantime, It's great getting to know you, your advice, your help and all that.
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:39 AM
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Uvajed,please qt your fish before adding them to your display.You should always suspect parisites and illness.I don't know nunch and I wasn't going to say anything but not qting is just plain stupid.
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:26 AM
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Uvajed,please qt your fish before adding them to your display.You should always suspect parisites and illness.I don't know nunch and I wasn't going to say anything but not qting is just plain stupid.
Listen, Bro. To each his own, if that's how you do it and it works for you then fine, keep up the good work. but in my experiences I know alot of people w/ some pretty nice tanks and a few buddies that own LFS's that have been up and running for many years and neither them nor me quarantine a new fish before adding to main tank. You have your way and I have mine (which hasn't failed me yet) so relax, take a breathe, before you call something "just plain stupid", cause it's not the way you do it.
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It's not a bad idea to qt. I get my livestock from a trusted source and i know he keeps Cu in all his fish holding tanks. plus i won't buy unless fish has been there a few days at least.
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It's not a bad idea to qt. I get my livestock from a trusted source and i know he keeps Cu in all his fish holding tanks. plus i won't buy unless fish has been there a few days at least.
Hey Nunch! Good to see you over at 3-Reef too.

The QT thing. If you have a LFS QTing and using Cu before putting the stuff out for sale thats great! Most places around here dont do that. So that being the case wouldnt it make sense to practice QT on our own to be safe? Some of this crap comin in can wipe out your livestock if not careful.
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Uvajed I applaud your patience from the get go, Nunch like you I have a very trusted LFS with great care and handling as well, but I think Jim and Adam are right.....dont take even the slightest risk here. Its good practice too for when you get some more exspensive fishies.
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Hey Nunch! Good to see you over at 3-Reef too.

The QT thing. If you have a LFS QTing and using Cu before putting the stuff out for sale thats great! Most places around here dont do that. So that being the case wouldnt it make sense to practice QT on our own to be safe? Some of this crap comin in can wipe out your livestock if not careful.
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Yeah some are jumpers here but take it with a grain of salt too, everyone means well ( lord knows I had to learn that) and if it works for you great but it seems everyone likes to advise in the way of caution more often than not.
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I wasn't calling you stupid nunch,but I think throwing a new fish/coral into your display with all the time and money we as reefers have invested is illadvised.I should have said it like that the first time."stupid" is a little strong.Sorry nunch I got excited
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NP, Agreed, I should have stated about the whole Cu and trusted source thing from the get. No hard feelings.
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Uvajed I applaud your patience from the get go, Nunch like you I have a very trusted LFS with great care and handling as well, but I think Jim and Adam are right.....dont take even the slightest risk here. Its good practice too for when you get some more exspensive fishies.

Today I just bought 3 blue/green chromis's and one clown. The 'nemo' kind. My LFS was so helpful. I am qt'ing the fish for a week or so, but the gal there thought, since it was my first fish, we'd discover any issues with or without qting. Also, she said, don't buy this fish, it doesn't look good, let's get this one...... Plus, she said, don't get this or that just yet, you're too new for this type of fish. Like I said, perhaps I have a good LFS that's looking out for the best outcome of the fish. But they have been so helpful to tell me NOT to buy something, my tank's not ready, or I'm not ready. (this is a family shop, not a chain). She suggested I wait a couple weeks for additional purchases, see what happens. Next step is some shrimp or gobies. Sand stuff. They will not sell me more until I bring in a water sample. I'm an engineer, understand the testing/chemistry stuff, the waiting process, and it's still nice having this store watch my progress, and it's nice they care about the fish's outcome. I guess my situation is unusual.

And, it's really cool having fish now. I'm mesmerized.
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