Reef Builders - The Source for Reef Keeping Information

Reef Builders Forums » Saltwater Aquariums » New to the Hobby (Getting Started/Setting Up) » doubts

Reef Produce ReviewsSubmit your own review, or look at others.
Reef Builders Chat: meet daily from 6:00PM CST to 12:00PM CST Login
Reef Builders Library: a wealth of information at your fingertips, check out a book now
 
 
 

New to the Hobby (Getting Started/Setting Up) Think you can upgrade to saltwater? Your probably very confused, but remember ask questions and you'll get your answers on here!
Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools
  1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 01:14 AM
axel's Avatar
Skimming the surface
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 5
Blog Entries:
axel is looking at reefs
Default doubts

I have a big noob question on the actinic and normal light. Should they be turned on together or individually and separate times.

Another one. How can u have live sand?

How much gph should i need to lift the water from my mini-sump to my nano reef aquarium? the height between the sump and the nano would be of 35 inches aprox.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 01:20 AM
kh6sat's Avatar
Master RB in the making
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maili, Hawaii (Oahu West Side)
Posts: 123
Tank Size (US GAL): 120
Experience: 6 Years
Name: Rick
Blog Entries:
kh6sat is looking at reefs
Default Re: doubts

Alot of people run them together. It adds some color to the normal lights. I'll turn my actinics on in the morning then add the metal halides (regular lights for you) around 10am to simulate mid day. Then around 4pm the halids come off and the actinics stay on until about 8pm. After that the moonlights are on all night until 8am in the morning when the cycle starts all over.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 01:28 AM
kh6sat's Avatar
Master RB in the making
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maili, Hawaii (Oahu West Side)
Posts: 123
Tank Size (US GAL): 120
Experience: 6 Years
Name: Rick
Blog Entries:
kh6sat is looking at reefs
Default Re: doubts

By the way, if you do a search on this site for "live sand" you may get the answers you are looking for about that subject. I got my sand directly from the ocean so I don't really know how its made. I would assume if you put sand in your aquarium. it would eventually come "live" after all the biological functions get going.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 01:39 AM
e_baer's Avatar
Link Vader

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 5,698
Tank Size (US GAL): 125
Experience: 4 Years
Name: Elliott
Blog Entries: 2
e_baer is researching a little more
Default Re: doubts

since you dont have MH the actinics should be on at the same time as the normal lights, but they should be turned on 2 hours before the normal ones go on, and 2 hours afterwards. I dont think you should run your normal lights more than 10 hours or so. so that makes your actinics on for another 4 additional hours in total.


incase you didnt understand that:


actinics go on at 6am and stay on till 8pm. Normal lights go on from 8am till 6pm. moonlights will be on when there are no other lights on.


llive sand does not mean it has feet and can walk around. it simply means there is beneficial bacteria living in the sand. Protein Skimmers

if you choose to go wiht live sand, you may want to consider a deep sand bed.
Protein Skimmers
__________________
Revelation 20:15


I have cheato for sale....look in the marketplace!

If there is something in life you want, reach out and grab it! - into the wild
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 01:57 AM
msbdiving's Avatar
Hard core RB
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: menifee, ca
Posts: 441
Tank Size (US GAL): 40
Experience: 2 Years
Name: Michael Bennetts
Blog Entries:
msbdiving is looking at reefs
Default Re: doubts

"Live sand" is sand that should be clean. It becomes "live" after the bacteria has been able to establish a foothold and gone throught he cycling process. I would caution you to get sand from the local beach. Many impurities are found in local beach sand (at least in SoCal). The impurities will stay in the sand long after they have been removed from the water. Remember, picture the beach like a big protein skimmer.

As far as gpm and elevation, do you happen to know what your head pressure is or are you still looking for a pump? You want to go with a pump that will turn over your tank at about 10 times per hour. You might want to bump it up a bit more since you have the elevation to consider. Also, if you have alot of 90 deg elbows, you are going to need to bump it up a bit more to account for friction loss.

The lights sound about right. 8-10hrs. Actinics longer.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 07:05 AM
NATIVEVAMAN's Avatar
Elder Statesman
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,150
Tank Size (US GAL): 65
Experience: 25+ Years
Blog Entries: 0
NATIVEVAMAN is looking at reefs
Default Re: doubts

I am going to make a guess that you are useing a siphon to get water from the tank to the sump.there are two dangers here.first if the pump quits for any reason the siphon will keep going and over fill the sump causeing a minor or major flood.Second if the siphon breaks the pump will keep running long after it runs dry.you need to know the flow rate of your siphon to determine the return pump size,generally the longer a siphon is vertically the more water it will move(it has to do with the weight of the water in the pipe,more means faster).I once siphoned an 80 gallon water heater on the third floor in about 10 minutes.So the rate can be quite high.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 10:02 AM
e_baer's Avatar
Link Vader

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 5,698
Tank Size (US GAL): 125
Experience: 4 Years
Name: Elliott
Blog Entries: 2
e_baer is researching a little more
Default Re: doubts

i know that 3/4 inch pipe with a siphon will run about 300gph. then im guessing that for every 1/4 inch, you can add or subtract 100 gph
__________________
Revelation 20:15


I have cheato for sale....look in the marketplace!

If there is something in life you want, reach out and grab it! - into the wild
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 11:50 AM
reefnoob1991's Avatar
RB extremist!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,091
Tank Size (US GAL): 75
Experience: 6 Months
Name: Brandon Pounds
Blog Entries:
reefnoob1991 is looking at reefs
Default Re: doubts

I'm going to go with e_baer on this one I run my actinics 1-2 hours before I turn my regular lights on (leaving the actinics on) and run them for 10-12 hours then leave the actinics on for 2 more.
__________________
75 gallon mixed reef
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 11:58 AM
e_baer's Avatar
Link Vader

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 5,698
Tank Size (US GAL): 125
Experience: 4 Years
Name: Elliott
Blog Entries: 2
e_baer is researching a little more
Default Re: doubts

Under normal circumstances, a photoperiod of 8 to 10.5 hours should be sufficient. More, and you run the risk of an algae bloom and/or stressing your corals due to an extended photoperiod. With less, your corals may not do as well due to a lack of sufficient photoperiod. The easiest way to do this is to place your lights on a timer. This allows for an automatic day/night cycle without you needing to be there. Some hobbyists have arranged their lighting so that the actinic 03 bulbs come on first, then the metal halide(s), this being done so as not to "photoshock" the corals. It should be remembered that although blue light may not appear bright to us, it IS bright to the corals so there may be no benefit to doing this.
One problem that faces hobbyists is that they are not home a good portion of the day, a portion when the lights are on. To compensate for this, they leave the lights on well past the 8 to 10.5 hours actually needed. Here again, the timers come into play. It may be to your advantage to set the timers so that the lights come on at 11:00 a.m. or 12:00 noon and go off at 10:00 p.m. or 11:00 p.m. This way, the corals get the light they need, and the lights are on when you are home to enjoy the tank.


This came form
AQUARIUM FISH MARINE TROPICAL SUPPLIES FRESH WATER PET SUPPLY
__________________
Revelation 20:15


I have cheato for sale....look in the marketplace!

If there is something in life you want, reach out and grab it! - into the wild
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2007, 12:00 PM
reefnoob1991's Avatar
RB extremist!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,091
Tank Size (US GAL): 75
Experience: 6 Months
Name: Brandon Pounds
Blog Entries:
reefnoob1991 is looking at reefs
Default Re: doubts

I have to for my anemone until I get my skimmer
__________________
75 gallon mixed reef
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.reefbuilders.com/forums/new-hobby-getting-started-setting-up/3860-doubts.html
Posted By For Type Date
doubts - Reef Builders Forum This thread Refback 07-11-2007 01:28 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:02 AM.