[bri74]

hey guys got home tonight and looked at the strange lion and now he is kinda milky looing and has a bunch of tiny white spots all over him now i know this isnt normal not sure what to do please help everything else in the tank seems ok

[Kimjo1]

HI, How long has he been in the tank? Is the lion in your 40G? I would think it sounds like ick?? Maybe hes too big for the tank and stressed out? Keep us informed?

[rlcline76]

How's your triggerfish?
Is the lionfish still eating and swimming?
Sounds like ich. Do you have anywhere to quarantine and treat?

[Salt-lick]

Is this the same fella with the lionfish that swims upside down?

[bri74]

ya he hangs out upside down. how exactly do you treat ich? and what all needs to be in a quarantine tank?

[Salt-lick]

A QT from my understanding is a tank that is setup like a regular tank minus the LR but i assume Live Rock wont hurt.. the QT's Ive seen have a piece of PVC in the tank ( No LR) so the fish or critters can hide in.. preferably the same water params as your tank.

[Salt-lick]

For my freshies i used an ich treatment this way (this probably doesn't apply to salt at all) but I treated the tank with a capful and pulled the filter, 24 hours later i did a 45% water change then added more ich treatment, then 24 hours later a 50% water change, for 3 days, then changed out another 60% and replaced the filter and slowed the feedings.. And it worked for me.. But again that was freshwater I assume that Salt is going to be a different animal in itself.

[bri74]

the trigger is hanging out at the top of the tank so i am thinking he may have the same thing going on cause he usually hides in the rocks and only comes out on occasion. Gonna go to the LFS when they open in an hour and see what they have for a QT the lion ate the day before yesterday so i was gonna try to feed him today.

[rlcline76]

Since you have sick fish and you are in a rush, you may use the water from your tank for whatever you use for QT. I don't mess with LR because copper will kill whatever makes it live. I would suggest a poerhead for flow, pvc pipe if your fish are still small enough to hide out in when they feel vulnerable...any cheap filtration system and a heater! I have read that lionfish can handle copper treatment, but I would doublecheck.

[jgo1973]

Can you post a picture? So we can make sure it is ich and how bad it is. Some times with stress induced ich will go away on it's own.

About a year ago I had several issues with this and have come full circle and have been ich free for a long time. What are the water conditions (that can cause stress that causes ich)? What else is in your tank? Is it fish only, or do you have creatures like hermit crabs ect? The only ways I have found success is 1. Fresh Water dip and 2. Hyposalinity (reducing the salt in the water). Some people may disagree w/me...however in my experience it has proven to be long term succesful.

[e_baer]

if you decide to do hyposalinity, make sure you bgring the SG down to 1.012, otherwise it wont do anyhting. you may read that 1.017 is sufficient, but its not.

[bri74]

hey guys talked to a friend of mine he says that it is for sure ich and to use this stuff called rid ich in the tank only use half reccommended amount cause of the other stuff in there and its working so far he is lookin better and better will set up qt next time

[e_baer]

if you have coral, you can use some stuff called kick ich. works well!

[jgo1973]

Great news. Keep us posted, I havn't had success with meds.

[Salt-lick]

I asked one of my guys at our LFSlastnight about your sick Lion, he said it could be a multitude of things, Shock, over feeding, tank params, crowding, but it sounds like none of these are your issue. He also said if you have a QT then to use it.

[bri74]

hey everyone it seems to be working good so far its working good thanks for all your input and I will keep you posted

[Cela Vie]

Great news! Definitely keep us posted.

[bri74]

day three of the medicine and it seems to be working good. the foggy stuff is just falling right off him. I am still gonna set up QT today.

[Salt-lick]

Def. a good thing to have for the future. especially when you introduce new animals

[jgo1973]

Sweet. Good News!

[bri74]

just thought i would give you all an update. the lion is doing ok I hooked up a seaclone skimmer and moved him in to a 10 gal QT this am. he still has a few white dots on him but he is doing better. Now my longspine urchin seems to be loosing all of his longest spines im thinking its cause of the medication that i was putting in there so i did a 20 percent water change hopefully this takes care of it. the trigger, hermit crab and the snowflake eel appears to be ok thanks for alll the help I tell everyone i know this is the place for answers.

[Kimjo1]

HI guys, Will Ich Kick work If i have a choc chip star and some hermits? Live sand and no lr in my tank at work.

It only has a few small damsels for color for the kids in the office. I noticed ich on one of them yesterday. I took him out and dipped him in distilled water ONLY because after a trip to the lfs they didnt seem to have anything I could use with inverts and a star fish and noone seemed to have ANY knowledge. I cant remember if Melafix is safe for inverts??

Lemme know what ya think please. Also the tank is a self contained 10G cube NOT a nano with compacts and has been set up over a year.

Thanks a bunch!

[e_baer]

yes kick ich works well with corals and inverts, but if you have anemones, be cautious. my anemone died shortly after i used kick ich.

[Salt-lick]

Maybe it will kill my aptasia! Stupid anem I have not heard of a lion losing spines due to a treatment...

[e_baer]

eh...the lemon juice should be fine, either that or you can go to Pet Supplies, Dog Supplies, Cat Supplies, Pet Meds & Pet Products: Drs. Foster & Smith Pet Supplies and they sell some concoction with the suringe for aptasia.