Reef Builders - The Source for Reef Keeping Information

Reef Builders Forums » Saltwater Aquariums » New to the Hobby (Getting Started/Setting Up) » Another water question?

Reef Produce ReviewsSubmit your own review, or look at others.
Reef Builders Chat: meet daily from 6:00PM CST to 12:00PM CST Login
 
 
 

New to the Hobby (Getting Started/Setting Up) Think you can upgrade to saltwater? Your probably very confused, but remember ask questions and you'll get your answers on here!
Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-30-2007, 07:11 PM
passinetti2007's Avatar
Master RB in the making
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 128
Name: Jason
Blog Entries:
passinetti2007 is looking at reefs
Default Another water question?

After I got the purest water for my tank ready what do I do next? I'm the ultimate newbie but I'm catching on quick, just not quick enough. I'm sure all you veterans get tired of these questions but i can't find a post that answer this one and I'm tired of looking.

I'm sure you don't just add salt crystals to the water. What exactly do I need to purchase to add to the water. I'm getting a 75 gallon tank. I'm not sure how much the sump holds. I don't know how much water I'm going to need yet.

My main concern is what to I put into the pure water to get it going and what do I need to do next?

Is there a solution I can by bulk to just put in the water that adds all the chemicals and salt or do I buy it all seperately? What do I need?

When it's all mixed up, do I have to test it before I put it in the tank. The fish store guys said to get a huge rubbermaid garbage can and house the water, but they never said if to mix the water in the can or in the tank.

So I'm assuming you mix the water then add the rocks and sand and monitor it all for a while, right?

I guess I need to get sea plants and put in the sump too, is that right? this creates the nitrates right?

Do I do this at this point or will the new mixed water kill off the plants?

I know alot of questions for one thread, but I'm clueless.

thank you for your help.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-31-2007, 08:08 AM
ericwebster's Avatar
Internet Technologist
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Boston Ma
Posts: 57
Blog Entries:
ericwebster is looking at reefs
Default

Hey Pass ..

Your right on .. there are lots of brands of salt mix, I happen to use “Instant Ocean” (see http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...e-_-Salt_Mixes)

Basically you need to mix your water but you need to do it correctly you need to get some sort of device to measure how much salt is in the water so you know if your using too much or too little (also when mixing new water for water changes you can match the old water as not to stress the fish)

The person whom told you to get a large water bucket was right .. if your not filtering your water (which you will want to do some day) you will need to de-toxify the water first (see Amquel http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...N=2004+112994). You need to remove harmful chemicals to the fish .. mix in your salt and get it to a salinity of like 1.025-1.026 – the cheapest way to measure this is with a hydrometer (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...N=2004+113761).

There are better ways of doing this (using filtered water, a refractometer) but this is an expensive hobby and you may want to take it slow .. a 75 gallon is a big one to start with and I would recommend lots of internet reading.


Looking forward -
You need to plan out your filtration and where your going to put all the different items (Heaters, Skimmers, etc) you need. Have you done any research on a sump or a wet/dry filter?

Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-31-2007, 09:19 AM
dalamar96's Avatar
Diving in
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 59
Blog Entries:
dalamar96 is looking at reefs
Default

Pass,
Eric has great information there and is dead on in what he says. There are some more ideas that I have found work out and help out a lot in setting up water for water changes. First the rubbermaid garbage can is a GREAT way to mix top off and water change water! I fill mine with RO/DI water, then have a pump head in the can to circulate the water, as well as an air stone to add agitation. AFter the water has sat agitating for 24hours I add the salt for the amount of water in the can (again checking this with a hydrometer), then I let it sit for another 24hours. After this period you should check to make sure the temp of the water is the same as the tank temp, and add some sort of Ph Buffer to get the PH up to the same as the tank (8.3 in my case). You can let the water sit agitating for 2-3 more days before the water change (there is no limit to how long it can sit with the pump and airhose in it)

This is just for water changes and top offs, for the first amount of water when yo uare first setting up the tank, just put the RO/DI water in the tank, then add salt and buffer to get the salinity and the Ph correct and once the temp, ph and salinity are correct you can add your live sand. Start running your pumps and filters (and hopefully a skimmer) at this point, let it go for a week and test the water every other day or 3rd day. Wait for your initial ammonia spike and nitrite spike to fall off, then do your first water change to get the nitrates down that have developed. Then you are ready for your first set of liverock!!

Chad
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-31-2007, 12:35 PM
passinetti2007's Avatar
Master RB in the making
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 128
Name: Jason
Blog Entries:
passinetti2007 is looking at reefs
Default

Thanks guys I really appriciate the help and advice. I do want to go with a 75 gallon tank. The guys at my lps said they wouldn't advise anything less then a 75 gal for a first tank because anything smaller doesn't give much room for the display of rocks and sand. They said if I go with a 55 gal which is 13" wide there won't be much room to oceanscape it. Is that the right term? oceanscape? anyways with a 75 gal I'll have plenty of room to lay the rocks down and still have sand space to see my filter feeders and clams and what not. I hope I'm saying this stuff right. If not I'm really not trying to talk out of my butt here. I'm just going off of what I've heard so far.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-31-2007, 01:47 PM
DEWAYNE's Avatar
Carpel tunnel from RB
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: spring, tx.
Posts: 284
Tank Size (US GAL): 120
Experience: 12 Years
Name: dewayne finney (bubba)
Blog Entries: 4
DEWAYNE is looking at reefs
Default

I agree with the 75 gallon, that was my first tank size, and it worked out really well, you will also have alot more room for you'r decor.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:14 AM.