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Old 09-30-2007, 07:38 PM
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can you just use any aquarium safe adhesive for gluing base rock together or is there a more better type to use?
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:23 PM
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I always use gel type super glue, it works great and has a fast stick time.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:49 PM
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Can you use the gel to attach corals to rock underwater???
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Old 09-30-2007, 11:52 PM
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no, you need to take them out and dry the area to be glued on the coral and rock then let dry for 2-3 minuets. It wont hurt them to only be out a few minuets.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:36 AM
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You can not use any silicone for gluing rocks. Only use the ones that say "Safe for aquarium use" or similar wording. Most contain biocides, etc that are detrimental to your tank. Read the entire label carefully. Most also say not for continuous underwater usage.
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but if it say's aquarium safe its ok?
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:31 AM
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would it be better to just use reef putty? i just wanted to use silicone because it was cheaper im going to be gluing about 200 lbs of rock together
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but if it say's aquarium safe its ok?
Yes you will be good to go just make sure it says aquarium safe, or that the super glue is cyanoacrylate like most (Super Glue, Krazy Glue, Loctite, etc...) are.
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would it be better to just use reef putty? i just wanted to use silicone because it was cheaper im going to be gluing about 200 lbs of rock together
I couldnt say, I have never used reef putty
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ya im setting up a 180 gal dont want to waste money in glue lol!
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ya im setting up a 180 gal dont want to waste money in glue lol!
Cool, I would suggest AquaMend epoxy from home depot or where ever. It is like $3 and very easy to use. Also a big plus is if you ever need to take them apart it can be done with some pressure. It is made for under water use saltwater and fresh.
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thanks Clint, I will check on that bulkhead for you too. Do you still need the pre filter for your mag 12 also?
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Personally I don't like gluing rock because if you ever want to change it around it is difficult. I would even try to use cyanoacrylate glues because the rock is too porous. If you want some stability, get a carbide drill bit for drilling concrete, ceramic tile, etc, drill a hole in the 2 pieces of rock & inset a plastic pin.
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thanks Clint, I will check on that bulkhead for you too. Do you still need the pre filter for your mag 12 also?
Yes, I will be over sometime today to look around. I need the bulkhead ASAP, mine started to leak the other day. I would only like the filter if you had it laying around in the back someplace.
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its for a restaraunt so no replanning
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its for a restaraunt so no replanning
AquaMend epoxy stick is want you want then at a good price.
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