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We reported earlier yesterday that Reef Central was down and today it looks like our worst fears have been confirmed. Reef Central is down and from the looks of things, it isn’t coming back. Apparently the database backup files that were necessary to bring the site back up have been corrupted or unable to be restored.
With “beerguy” being one of the oldest admins on Reef Central, we believe this information to be accurate. However, what led to this? Was there not sufficient server infrastructure in place? Did the “update” that was applied yesterday break the server? Or was it just because the site finally broke with the outdated software? Whatever the case, we don’t know for sure and the loss of the biggest online reef community is certain to come as a shock to everyone.
Update 1: No sooner do we post the grim news about RC’s demise than we receive another comment from the source, hit the read link down below.
Update 2: We received another update from an RC Admin member “mhurely”.
Update 3: The quotes are bogus from a disgruntled reefer, you can read more here.
I am getting constant phone calls, there is really nothing we can do from here. Again, on behalf of everyone at RC, we are deeply sorry about this and we do wish everyone well.
By the end of the day the website will be updated with more information regarding what has happened along with a very long apology from our staff.
~beerguy
First, I would like to apologize to all of our members, sponsors and even our staff. We had a breach in our security systems, allowing easy access [by a hacker] to our very important files and database. Most of these items were either corrupted or completely deleted. We made the mistake of placing our back ups on the same server as which we operated the site on (yes, we know, a HUGE mistake).
As for our sponsors, as per our agreement [very similar to user agreement] in the event that something like this happens, unfortunately this is a issue and loss we must share. All sponsors who have paid up until down time will not be refunded. If you have yet to send your sponsorship dues, please do not, as once it is sent we cannot refund it. If you are setup on a subscription basis, please cancel subscriptions as soon as possible.
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me and I will be more than happy to assist you as best as possible.
Once again, I would like to apologize for everything to everyone. Like BeerGuy has already stated, website will be updated with more information regarding the situation that has shut us down.
-mhurley
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Wow! Think of all the sponsor dollars in this… the sponsor tech pages where this was the best way to get in contact with a company. The INFO. Pretty insane, never thought we’d see it go.
“Pretty insane, never thought we’d see it go.”
The writing has been on the wall for sometime now. I’m not surprised by a crash of this magnitude. It’s a shame though to all the sponsors and content that had been collected over the years.
WOW! I spent a little time on RC, and the info there was HUGE!!! Though the loss of RC is not hobby ending! There are TONS of smaller boards out there that are about to get MUCH bigger I think.
I find it hard to believe that there is no usable backup from any time or any date. Has beerguy become the scapegoat for a failed business model or other internal administrative problems and in fact the site has been shut down by choice, not database corruption? Did John Link throw in the towel?
“Did John Link throw in the towel?”
JohnL, allegedly, threw in the towel a long time ago and has been hands off.
Its a sad day for the reefing community.
I think there is something going on. Nano-Reef was also affected with corrupt database and the web-site was down for a while. This happened just about the same time as RC
I for one am devastated.
This was THE best online forum. The information posted here was priceless, and now it os gone?
A Sad Sad day for the reefing community.
~Michael
Things are not always what they seem
Stay tuned and have patience…
HAHAHA, they deserve it for their long run of control over information and their butt hungry mods. Their ugly site is no more. I would just hope for some sponsonrs to go after the admins for stealing prepaid banner/forum dues. This is a hobby and they thought they were the gods of it.
I learned almost everything I know about reefing from others on Reef Central. I don’t know what I’m gonna do now. I am scared and afraid
I bet you is was North Korea – those a-holes.
Completely outrageous, What a wealth of good (and bad) info, lost forever! Some of the mega threads will truly be missed. Straw that broke the camels back, IMO.
Remember kids, “Save early, Save often!”
I wonder if the hole update thing was a lie.. My friend who is a mod there would not lie to me but he may have been lied too. I heard a while back that John had disappeared for a while and no body could get a hold of him but that was along time ago. RC, RDO and the reef tank were one of the first sites I logged on to after fishnet when the internet started. Fishnet was still the best forum ever. Never was there so many experts debating in one spot. Anyway you look at it though it is a end of a era. Rc has changed over the years though, it was not the same RC as it used to be.
Dave
You’re right Dave. Now it’s full of too much arrogance.
Just read your post Jeff… I was wondering the same thing. I was wondering if they were rolling over to new software and a whole new site. Maybe a new owner? Could be they were trying to roll over the user database and could not. Total speculation on my part though.. The site was getting unmanageable. There were too many user accounts most were dead. The database was getting to big and slow and search didn’t work right anymore. So are we going to see a new rc? But like I said, total speculation on my part. I just have a hard time believing a site as big as them with all the sponsors would just throw in the towel.
Dave
with Reef Central down, where is everyone flocking to?
The site was full of arrogant idiots.
It is a sad sad day for the data loss though
Wow, what a loss! Standard procedure is to clean up the user database at leasts once a month, or should have been.
There was a ton of useful info on that site. I hope they can rebuild!
They could have easily managed the “dead” accounts. Who knows if this is all smoke and mirrors or WTF is going on. I know the greed got out of control in the end but who knows whats happening, A million other sites willing to step in and take it’s place.
Beerguy has a backup —- It’ll be on Ebay soon enough I’m sure.
I love the internet
I could never get a good search in there… When I could I got good info.
I’ve recently been asking my Q’s and getting good debate on a really awesome new site
Oh no! Now where are all the reef douches going to hang out? It’s a shame RC was destroyed, but it was a different RC. It stopped being friendly a few years ago. I won’t miss it.
Front page has changed now too:
Hello RC Members.
“Sorry for the interruption. We’ll be back in a little while, I need to check something.
While you’re waiting, why check out ReefKeeping Magazine?
Cheers”
Its pretty annoying to see all the crap talking on all the other forums and blogs by the same people that were on RC every day.
I keep seeing the term ‘greed’ mentioned. Why does anyone but the sponsors that pay the monthly fee really give a dammn how much the site makes? When’s the last time you went to the grocery store or the mall and bitched how much the owners make? You don’t, it’s really none of your business, you get what you need, give a little and get out.
All I know is that I paid my $24 a month, less than a magazine subscription, and received daily updates about one the things that brings the most joy at this time in my life. I could give a dammn about how much the Admin. makes. If you’re complaining about it, you’re just mad that you didn’t think of it first…
With the amount of members on RC in countless countries and the years of documented history of the past 10 years in this hobby, nothing could replace Reef Central… This is a huge loss to the hobby and I hope they figure out something to fix this situation. It would be a shame to loose all that history of this hobby that we all love…
My $0.02
“All I know is that I paid my $24 a month, less than a magazine subscription”
Ummm you pay more than $24 a month for a magazine?
Ian,
You obviously are not aware of the situation with reefkeeping magazine. That is where the majority of the “greed” comments are coming from.
You paid $24 to search the site. I hope you are happy with that decision, I know I WAS – until the majority of people providing the good information bailed out.
I knew that it would get hacked, if that is the truth! I think they took the sponsor money and Ran…. Nice clause in the contract, if we have your money you SOL… That is why I was never a paid member. Once the search would not work unless you were a paid member, I knew it was a scam…… Go to Reef2reef.com
I have used RC over the years and was always one of the best resources for this hobby. Whether it was buying/selling or issues with livestock or gear. The Neptune Systems forum alone taught me many many things about my controller. Info I could not have gotten without bothering Curt every two minutes.
I am truly saddend by this tragedy. If the site made a little cash then good for them. Someone has to put in the time into maintaing the site and paying the bills etc. I say more power to ya! It was well worth the price of admission for the valuable information RC offered.
This resource will be missed world wide!
This is awful news. We’re keeping our collective fingers crossed that RC can resolve the situation.
Though never one to dance on another’s grave, in this case I’m dusting off my dancing shoes. I saw this coming years ago, for there’s not a server alive that could handle the amount of smugness generated by the RC mods. Good riddance. /spiteful schadenfreude
“Ummm you pay more than $24 a month for a magazine?”
$24 a year, come on man, you know what I mean…
Daniel, for what I got from that site, I gladly pay $24 a year. Thats $2 a month man, thats the cheapest thing I buy for my tank!
One could argue all day about the pros and cons of RC and how it was managed but in the end the loss of that database of info gathered from reefers around the world is truly a great loss, I only hope other forums are better equipped to ensure this does not happen again.
Ian,
I hear what you are saying, but the fact of the matter is, alot of the really good stuff, which got me to pay in the first place, is long gone. Still alot of extremely valuable information is completely gone.
I’m not a total RC hater by any means, but sometimes you have to read the writing on the walls. As an RC member since 2002, things really started to change, and I stopped paying.
$2 a month though, I hear you, worth it for what they provided – an overflowing outlet of information.
What a horrible blow to the reefing community. RC was a point of contact for many of the sponsors to the public. Hopefully this will all straighten itself out soon.
Folks, all of this “news item” is totally off base. This is all false speculation/propaganda, obviously being perpetrated by someone with an agenda against RC. These so called quotes from beerguy and mhurley are totally concocted.
Total B/S!!!
Slander and libel are pretty serious.
Are you game?
[quote]Hello RC Members.
Sorry for the interruption. We’ll be back in a little while, I need to check something.
To the folks spreading rumors and making up quotes, it’s pretty sad when you have to resort to lying to try and get members.
Slander and libel are pretty serious things.
Cheers[/quote]
Frontpage update again.
Confirmed all fake…
Dave
Skipper I hope you are right. if anyone can patch us through to the real beerguy or mhurley please do so.
With all the Chum in the water, it may be helpful to provide an actual update as to what is ACTUALLY going on, on the RC homepage. Beerguy?
I am not a fan of the site, only because of the way it was conducted by the administrators and moderators, but it was filled with TONS of information provided by its MEMBERS both banned and active. I would hate to see all those images, information and members just get erased, it would definitely be a huge loss.
It looks like what was posted is incorrect though due to the new update they have posted. Maybe some Nano-Reef vs Reef Central war considering both are down around the same time?
Oh and btw, why you are all here? Why no updates?
Don’t you think your incredibly loyal and dedicated members and especially sponsors deserve at least that?
Jake Adams If that is truely skipper I think he would know. He was the editor of RK magazine for a long time… I just do now know why they would update the front page if they were going down for good. Also why not tell the truth then .. also the adds are working… I am worried this is a bad rumor started by people who do not like RC and their are allot of them.
Dave
retaliating to the “supposed” rumors and all, but you don’t bother to give anyone updates or a ETA on when the sites coming back up?
Typical RC, worried about securing that ego and making sure there bank account stays filled with no concern to there members or sponsors…
Hm.
I’m crying shenanigans on all of this. Something about it is fishy (no pun intended).
If RC was really down why am I getting message notifications and stuff from it. A full database meltdown would include private messages wouldn’t it?
Even if it did have to start over what is the worry? It’s not like you guys don’t have information to fill the board up with again. Geez. Did you run out of things to say?
All the old questions would be new again. How cool is that?
Anyway, hang on to your beers and panties boys. You gossip and worry like girls. It’s embarassing.
I’m sure RC is just fine and will be fixed shortly.
Geez Mike, maybe they are busy getting the site back up. They have updated all their members on the home page.
With all the trash you talk, why should they give you anything?
Ian, are you joking? I can guarantee that 99% of the staff has no idea what a database is, let alone repair or back up one.
I am sure they have a independent IT guy that does that work for them, and obviously he is a slacker.
Oh btw, your nose is a bit brown… might want to get out of there…
Oh and I wouldn’t call a “retaliating” statement, a update, at least a worthy one…
It is my greatest wish that the moderators and the owner of Reef Central take in all of the comments on all of the forums and use them for the betterment of Reef Central. Clearly there is a lot of resentment toward the moderators of this site. There is also an outpouring of appreciation for what the site means to saltwater hobbyist.
I personally was banned from Reef central due to a moderator who wished me gone for his own personal reasons. I am sure I am not the only one who was the victim of personal politics. As a matter of fact a couple of the finest people I know have been banned from RC for petty personal reasons.
Please Reef Central find a way to continue to be the outstanding information source that you have always been but with a group of moderators dedicated to making RC a place where everyone is welcome.
Hello RC Members.
The truth is that during an upgrade to mySQL we encountered an error that needed to be corrected. Unlike most sites, our database is very large and routine checks can take quite a long time to run. That’s one of the reasons why we’re one of the few sites that runs a full nightly backup. We’ll be back this morning with virtually zero data loss. Sorry to disappoint the folks forging the emails.
Hello RC Members.
Sorry for the interruption. We’ll be back in a little while, I need to check something.
To the folks spreading rumors and making up quotes, it’s pretty sad when you have to resort to lying to try and get members.
The truth is that during an upgrade to mySQL we encountered an error that needed to be corrected. Unlike most sites, our database is very large and routine checks can take quite a long time to run. That’s one of the reasons why we’re one of the few sites that runs a full nightly backup. We’ll be back this morning with virtually zero data loss. Sorry to disappoint the folks forging the emails.
Slander and libel are pretty serious things.
Cheers
just updated
Was that so hard?
Good to know none of the information was lost – great to know actually… that would of been truly sad!
Now, if you just get new moderators and administers, you might actually have a perfect website…
According to beerguy, RC will be back online later today
It seems RC can quote Mark Twain – “Rumors of My Demise Have Been Greatly
Exaggerated”
As a non IT guy, it seems the only sure thing about updates is they always take longer than you want them to, or expect them to. It amazes me that people would forge quotes to harm RC, and it amazes me even more that sites would post them without the slightest attempt to check their veracity.
SWEET RC isnt gone. Ill have something to do at work tomorrow
Well, I didnt think I would see it but Reef Builders actually reported untrue information and a whole lot of it. I hope they update their origional article about Reef Central with an apology.
Smug and arrogant even during the explanation of what happened. What a sad group of people, always looking to attack even in defeat and embarrassment.
“Smug and arrogant even during the explanation of what happened. What a sad group of people, always looking to attack even in defeat and embarrassment.”
Exactly what I was thinking. The winds of change are blowing and RC is still blowing hot air.
I heard that this morning Len from reefs.org died. He plans to be plasticized and displayed with Michael Jackson in that one plasticized bodies display that wanders the US.
More news as I find out. …
all the mods on RC SUCK. everything gets personal, and they abuse their power. truth is, the mods are a bunch of lonely old assholes sitting in their mothers basements, who go on RC to ban people when they need a break from masturbating to gay porn
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1671827
We’re back!
Just goes to show how bad the rumor mill is and how many people reach into their arse to pull out fallacy LOL.
LOL, let me guess, the neg comments are from people who can’t follow our simple rules.
Less than an hour of coming back online.
“There are currently 1793 members and 836 guests on the boards.”
Apparently not everyone feels the same way.
[quote]JohnL, allegedly, threw in the towel a long time ago and has been hands off[/quote]
I bet he still cashes the checks each month…
[quote]
I keep seeing the term ‘greed’ mentioned. Why does anyone but the sponsors that pay the monthly fee really give a dammn how much the site makes? When’s the last time you went to the grocery store or the mall and bitched how much the owners make? You don’t, it’s really none of your business, you get what you need, give a little and get out. [/quote]
actually, you maybe kinda of correct here in your observation, but unfortunately that observation is a SAD one.
we as a community SHOULD care. We should get in control of what we spend, how we spend and where we spend.
If consumers were more proactive and more responsibile, we would not patronize the greedy millionaire and rather support the new and upstart businesses. This will keep the flow and number of competition higher, which will lead to better pricing and options for us ‘end users’
Your comments are all geared toward ‘blind faith’ and creatures of habit… While i ponder and work towards making things better…
I have also seen comments fromothers regarding the ‘haters’ that deserved whatever heavy handed actions they got… which is akin to believing that everyone who gets pulled over for speeding is guilty, or everyone behind bars is guilty… and that cops never lie or do anything wrong…
Obviously with the number of reefers out here that share the same opinion, for the same reason, cant be coincidence…
thelevel of hypcrisy in our society, this community and this hobby is stagering…
theinability to see it/reconginze those that breathe it and the level of acceptance guarantee that the rich will get richer while the poor get poorer..
the tactics employed are the same… diffuse and confuse…
thier last messages/notices about the sql datafile and all that is TOTAL BS
Whatever datafile and however big it was would not take a day and ahlf to deal with.. unless they are using the amiga computer as a webserver..???
All thier updates should have taken place on a blind server…they could have mirrored the main rc data file, and updated it, run into problems, fixed them and when totally satisfied and tested for a few days/weeks, could hve been easily switched via an update to the dns server to point to the mirror’d and updated files/site
this is not rocket science, and for the millions of dollars RC collects annually, they certainly must have been cheap with thier IT guy to end up with a full day long shut down
they deserver every bit of bad rep/rap they get…
their only positivie attribute has nothing to do with them.. thier library of articles and messages online… this all came from MEMBERS…
all RC did was come up with a name, and had some good strategys to get thier name known… (I am betting they pasted thier names on every forum around and spmmed everyhthing they could… stuff they would never allow anyone to do now adays on thier forum)
[quote]dc
Posted July 16, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
LOL, let me guess, the neg comments are from people who can’t follow our simple rules.
Less than an hour of coming back online.
“There are currently 1793 members and 836 guests on the boards.”
Apparently not everyone feels the same way.
[/quopte]
no,not everyone, but enough that it should make any SANE persone take pause and wonder how to correct…
and please elaborate… what simple rule didnt i follow??? I was merely told I wasnt liked..and that i didnt break any rule…
and with that you kept my ‘premium membership’
It might be different if actual rules were broken.. it might help if the INTENT of the rules was recognized, adn that in the case of for sale threads and the req to have 3 months and 50posts that the intent be examined.
The recent banning of a member who tried to sell frags of torch coral cause his thread got closed because, although he was a member for 2+ years, he was a bit shy of the 50 comments, tried to meet that requirements by posting simple messages that everyone else does, like +1 or NICE, or whatever…
he tried to do what anyone/everyone else gets away with… but for somereason he was singled out so that he can be the perfect member and follow the rules to comply 100%
bottom line is it is one thing to enforce rules it is onother to be arroogant while doing so and making smart ass comments
and although you have thousands of visitors back so shortly, is offset by the plethora of negative comments which will fall upon deaf and dumb ears…
It is probably against my better judgment to comment
but I feel compelled to interject my two cents re: bergovoy’s post. I think members have every right to care about the finances of their community … more so when there are paid memberships. I admit to being a little frustrated that other sites offer better features and service, but RC continues to hold on to its member participation for the simple fact that people want to post where other people post. Despite RC’s revenue stream, they’ve chosen to not invest in better hardware to allow for basic services like free searches; They’ve decided to eliminate the expense of paid professional articles for their magazine. As a “customer” (member), I should have every right to care … and if need be, complain … about how the finances are being distributed. The simplest solution is if you’re unhappy, find another community. But as mentioned, people like to stay where the masses congregate for obvious reasons.
Amazing to see people complain about a FREE resource, and still pulling fallacies out of thin air in the process Simple fact, if we hadn’t spent money on servers and NEW software to upgrade with, we wouldn’t have gone offline from a glitch during a software upgrade.
Therein lies our philosophical difference. I think customers/members have the right to voice their complaints, regardless of what they pay to use the service. It’s disheartening to keep hearing the “It’s free so just appreciate what we give you” line of thinking.
If I have posted any fallacy, please let me know and I will be more than willing to retract and apologize. I was simply voicing my opinion.
Len,
While you have a right to an opinion, you have absolutely zero knowledge of how any money gets spent on RC resources. The hardware has been upgraded many, many times and the software is currently being upgraded. As for the mag, your right that we no longer pay for articles, but you are completely wrong as to the reason.
Bill, I did not state any reasons or suggest any intentions. I also did not suggest RC does not update and maintain their systems, only that your system, however upgraded, still does not offer simple functions like searches for free. Please read only what I write.
“they’ve chosen to not invest in better hardware”
Couldn’t be more wrong Len. I forgot how argumentative you can be, without the need for actual facts, so I’m out of this one.
Bill,
Use my quote in full context please: “they’ve chosen to not invest in better hardware to allow for basic services like free searches.” I’m not trying to argue. You’re the one that misrepresented my views. I don’t think we’ve ever been in an argument. I certainly don’t remember any past communications with you. I realize your staff collectively does not like me, so perhaps you’re simply being a good company man
perfect example of RC mentality. wtg len… not hard to expose them for what they are, and that is LAME and arrogant at the same time…
and i am guessing i had too many words in my message for them to be able to overcome thier ADD and or comprehend the intent of my message..
cause i am sure that I and any number of other members have had very similar experiences them. (as thier mindset is perpetuated throughout thier organization.. they breed and sculpt moderators to this powermonger… i am not or rather I would not be surprised if a majority of moderators are cops… same thing but the cops where a badge…
Lol, I remember you Bergovoy. It’s always hobbiests like you with social problems and strong anger issues that cant follow a few simple rules and get kicked off of RC that whine the most and make it seem that there is a conspiracy. Everybody is out to get you and everybody shares your opinions lol! What kind of whipping do you take in real life that you need to act this way behind a computer? Move on with your life like you did at RC.
It is not my intention nor has it ever been to disparage their operation. All I wanted to do was express that members have every right to voice their opinions. As an admin, I would want my members to complain. I admittedly was also venting about how other websites (like reefbuilders) provide superior functions, services, and philosophies but can not compete with RC simply because RC is where the people are currently at, and information on the internet has a tendency to pool (which I totally understand). In years past, online marine hobbyist communities have all tried to avoid competion for the sake of not “fracturing” hobbyist community. I now think open, aggressive competition is the best thing that can happen for our hobby.
oh, im still on RC.. the mods dont realy accomplish anything ‘cept create some filter so folks like you can legitimately ignore me… (since you cant do it on your own)
but, again, as i pointed out above, what rule didnt i follow? and are you the type of guy to get wrongfully accused in front of your freinds and family and just say, ok and move on with your life? especially after paying for a service? If so, let me know as i have some business associates that could take advantage of you next..
And no, i dont recognize any conspiracy, at least not beyond some simple minded hypocrites who likeliving inthier sheltered world where they can create ‘collectibles’ as if they were mcdonald toys and try to sell them for top dollar..(instead of enjoying and appreciating the original reason you probably got into the hobby)
but, until / unless mr dc or beefguy can present information that conflicts with what beerguy already emailed me, thier actions were ‘personal’, immature and without cause, all while taking money for a service not provided
btw: it should be easy to recognize me, as i dont hide behind alias/usernames… care to share your screenname/user name? If not, then no need to carry on as arguing/discussing with you would be like arguing/discussing with a shadow or breeze
For the record, I’m not supporting bergovoy
I may share some similar opinions, but certainly not all. And I certainly don’t agree with the way he chooses to express them. A civil substantive discussion (note Billsreef … NOT argument 
) is usually quite constructive.
len, yes, there is a conflict betwen the intent of centralized information and multple / competing websites..
people/members congregate with others. that is human nature… the mods main goal is to diffuse and discredit folks with opinions/comments that are or could be construed as non conducive to thier BUSINESS
they do that well, as witnessed by Jeff’s position. he probably knows one small portion of the relevent issues, ad based on other peoples comments and his inability to read and critically interpret anyone elses position his opinion is/has become corrupt
It is a perfect example of our society… the VAST majority of voter dont know squat other then what they see or hear on commercials and billboards. the length and detail of thier conversations with others regarding those issues are based and about the commercials… Not the text of teh proposed measure or candidate…
and then they are empowered with the ultimate authority and they use it… and not only that, but they are proud and they wear a sticker, but just try to ask them details…. hehehehe
nor do i interpret len as being on MY side on all issues…
the issue i appreciated from len, was how dc trid to snow readers here by using just a snippet of a quote. that is a typical tactic used and enjoyed by moderators, especially at the time of banning, when the person/bannEE cant clarify or correct the obvious mis-quote and arrogant attiude to support
btw, len, was the a ‘nice way’ of saying i am long winded? hehehe
btw: do i know you?
(and see how i tried to keep the message short, by breakng it into two messages? I guess this is favorable to just putting several items together at one message???)
Good God you are a LOSER Bergovoy. Move on already. Let me guess, obese, drunk, balding, masturbate a lot?
damn quinn, you didnt get one right..
0 – 4
although i could lose some weight, i am far from obese…
and yea, i understand sheeple dont like waves… things jsut need to flow, gently, calmly down the river… nice and peaceful till the end… la lala la la..
btw, take a hike, or consider yourself part of whatver percieved problem you think there is here.
One website I frequent has a thread titled “bergovoy is a doucebag”, I guess it’s true.
got it
http://www.disturbedreefers.com
btw, not safe for work YOU ARE WARNED
btw: i love the emotional response now… rc is back up, someone complaind about how lame this forum is, but yet they still read it and replied, someone else comes up with an example that supports my claim that at least one person followed me to harass me, while not making anything of any value that would either support his opinion against me or to show I amwrong in any way…
emotional outburst. something i would expect from those that are ‘younger’, less mature, dare i say, less intelligent???
Somehow i am still here and still got that silly grin on..
Reef Central really should have had some kind of notice on their frontpage stating what was going on.
yawn…
I guess i shouldnt wait for a reply from dc or anyother person from RC regarding thier comments about breading simple rules and how that applied to me, (and probably many others) that were permabanned for no reason!!!
I am pretty sure you know why you were banned. I also thing that anybody that has read any of your crazy B.S. here or on RC has an idea as well. Some people just dont belong.
oh, i do know… i was told very specifically, and it wasnt for ‘breaking any simple rules’ that was expressed here and implied by your ‘assumption’
if the goal is to be surrounded by like minded individuals then so be it, but last time i checked that wasnt a rule…
maybe they should impliment a test prior to being accepted to determine if you have the psychy to ‘fit in’ to your little boys club.
but, whether or not YOU or a handful of YOUs dont like or appreciate me, the community is larger then you, and as demonstrated by the number of friends that I have made in this hobby and online I seem to be appreciated by some…
but I am glad that You would choose to limit thier choices and for you to pick who they can and cant get help and support from, and who they can and cant buy stuff from, and or who they can and cant hang with…
moronic mentality such as yours is predominate at RC and another forum i know, which i bet you hang at… if not you would fit right in..
but go ahead continue to show your lack of intelligence…
btw, im guessing that you have gotten support from me, and or free frags from me in the past…
care to share your screen name, or are you going to hide behind aliases also???
to highlight the mentality of those that seem to jump on bandwagons and love all things RC, here is a copy of an email i recieved from a mr. fugnuts at fugnuts@gmail.com
(I will censore the swear words as i dont know this forum and it’s rules)
[quote]
I noticed your postings on RB. You have to be the biggest f###ing a##hole I’ve ever heard of. Nobody cares about you, because you are a worthless troll, that is borderline illiterate. Obviously you had a horrible childhood and were f###ed up the a## by your Dad and or Uncle. Your life is meaningless, so you spend everyday of your worthless, wretched life posting about big bad Reef Central and all of the horrible things they did to you. It’s people like you that ruin things for people like me. You can’t get a long in a simple and basic society, and I’m sure this is true in your personal life as well. Please do us all a favor and kill yourself, so we don’t have to continue to experience the worthlessness that you are… Die f###head…
Signed,
Every Member of Reef Central
[/quote]
I guess i am ruining it for him… hmm, Ive never been so proud and happy about one of my accomplishments as mush as that…
heheheh
What bugs me most about RC is that I’ve been trying to cancel my membership for over a year and the won’t. I no longer wish to be a member of that community. I found a better source of information.
PLEASE MARK ME AS “MOVED ON”! LOL!!!
I’ve contacted mods and they all reply with the same smarmy response…..something to the effect of “why? you’ll be back.”
Nope. Sorry Larry.
So, who’s the bigger ass, me for wanting to cancel, or you for refusing?
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